So how did you get involved in this?

Well, I have been working on climate issues for a long time, and this just seemed like something that would be a really great bottom-up thing to do.

I mean, when you think about Climate change, it seems like something overwhelming that has to be solved on an international level.

And that's all true, but a surprising number of the decisions that we make that are influential, like what kind of energy we use, how we get around, where we build homes, what we do with our garbage, what we eat, these are all really hyper-local.

So we have a lot of power that we're not using.

And one of them is simply just keeping things alive and in use so that we don't get more of them.

recycled.

You know, we might take it to a recycling center, but that's not a guarantee, especially for things like electronics, that they're actually going to get recycled.