So can we expand on that? So what is data sovereignty and why do we care about it? What's the issue for our audience?

Look, I guess I'm not an expert in this area and people devote their whole academic careers to this kind of area.

But I guess my sort of simple way of looking at it is having ownership and what's an individual's rights as opposed to someone else's rights.

And I think...

Increasingly in Australia, there's greater recognition that a patient or a subject has a right to the data that they've provided to a study or a research project.

And there have been some pretty serious examples in the past of where data has been misused and not appropriately acknowledged, misrepresented.

And I guess... used in quite a racist way basically um and and that's why we've got specific laws that have been introduced to try and address address that um whether it does specifically achieve that or or not um i i can't really say, but at least it's a step in the right direction.

I've got a great

who might be questioning their own experiences, because I think a lot of people in any situation are like, is this really happening or what is really going on? What does this actually look like in day-to-day life?

Well, for me, when I asked for the divorce from my ex-husband, I didn't think that I was psychologically abused.

In fact, I felt very, very guilty for initiating the divorce.

And even when we separated, I felt...

I had no idea that I had been so conditioned to take the blame and assume fault in all situations.

I didn't realize it.

But even after we separated, I was taking the blame.

And I have to give grace because unless you're in it, in anything, you don't really recognize it until you're out of it.

Christ.

And I was like, "No." I was like...

But it was that, you know.

But he was on the phone quite a bit while he was there, and every time he's like, "Oh, it's a work issue.

It's a work issue," you know.

But I was irritated, because he was ignoring our son.

And so I'm like, "You, you need to spend some time." And so then I decided to leave a day early and leave them there for a night to s- stay together, you know, because I was trying so hard to facilitate their relationship.

Mm-hmm.