Was there anything similar claimed about women as office holders? It sounds like you're saying almost it's the opposite, is that women have a special kind of background that helps

them.

I mean, there certainly were cases where we've seen men elected to a local office, say the town council or mayor office.

and then women suddenly appearing, their wives, I should say, wives suddenly appearing on the school board, for example, or even some of the other local offices.

And some women were in the hired position of deputy, let's say, county clerk.

I don't think we've come across any state where that was an elected position.

They were hired or appointed.

I was wondering what your thoughts are on that.