If you were to tell a newer person who is either entrenched CDH player or newer to a format, and they're curious about, uh, playing something that's a little off meta but still fairly powerful, why choose Zirda?

So the advantages that Zirda has on any given meta is that it is a...

It can be surprisingly pretty fast, but it can also be built to grind.

Um, the basic combo is very, very simple and can get out on essentially four mana.

You can Grim Monolith Zirda, and that's infinite colorless mana.

If you have an outlet, you can immediately just win from there, as long as nobody stops you.

So the actual, like, understanding the base level of the deck is really, really easy, and you can get, like, about 50% proficiency by just goldfishing over and over and over and over again, and just understanding where the lines are.

Is that something that you're still seeing as one of the primary builds, or has that more fallen out of favor these days?

Wayne, where do you go with, uh, somebody trying to break 80?

Well, Tony, you know, you've ...

I've, I've taught a lot of people that have, y- you know, got down the ladder and, and learned how to play better.

And I think, you know, once you get someone who's shooting 82, 83, they...

Those kinds of scores, they're pretty...

You know, they're getting further along fundamentally, so they're more aware of what you're telling them, when you're teaching them.

They're certainly more aware of how to maybe move their body a little different, learn, you know, accept different feels and, and, and go with it without losing the ability to contact the ball solid.

Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

And so Carrick deserves immense credit for that.

Because what, when we're talking about the things that he's doing well, obviously we're saying it's logical to put Kobbie in that position, it's logical to put Bruno there, and it's almost criminal that making those logical decisions as we've resulted in such an acceleration of positive form because now you're looking over that s- wasteland of the first five months of the season thinking, "Well, there was a title charge there"With this squad, which was described as the worst in United history by its manager, there was a title charge in this league with this team.

So, and that's round pegs in round holes.

But th- then the other decisions like putting a square peg in a round hole, which Amorim got spectacularly wrong so many times, well, Carrick got it right on, on Saturday night.

And sometimes you can get it right, and that is a, a...

I, I've talked about Solskjaer's tactical decisions, which I thought he...

Yeah