Again, the military needed results, not theories.

And so we did a pragmatic study, which is what, you know, what does it look like compared to what normally they're getting? It's called treatment as usual.

They were getting psychotherapy.

They were getting a variety of things for stress relaxation.

Some of them were getting exposure in therapy.

They were on medications.

They were, uh, you know, they were getting group psychotherapy.

If anything, it's gotten worse.