Wayne, how did all this get started?

Originally, I wanted to do graphic design.

So I'd asked my teacher at school, you know, What can I do? Well, I always enjoyed art and design.

Let's put it there.

And I went to my art teacher and said, how can I earn money from doing this? And he's become a graphic designer.

So I did a national diploma in graphic design.

So I put all of my eggs in one basket rather than doing A-levels and fell in love with typography when I was there.

brilliant the big thing for me on doing the podcast is shining a light on people that are doing great things in the in the community and we're so lucky as a town to have grand is place on our doorstep you know for you got all the people that you've got there that are you know using your heritage crafts um you know maintaining that that skill set is that part you said you're you're part of quest is that part of your remit as well as as well as creating pieces is actually to pass on the skill set that you're developing onto the next generation