And that led to a whole lot of other things that really motivated you to really move and act for change.

Yes, Neil.

My background is in music.

Obviously, as a profession, it was a carpenter builder and seeing the good times and the bad times in that world.

But in 1990, we set off around Australia with their family, towing with a bus and a caravan.

We moved up to a tour bus, coach, converted coach bus in 94 and traveled around Australia and across Australia many, many, many, many times and sharing the good news of Jesus and jails and schools and churches.

And here we are today.

How do you reflect on that experience?

How do you describe what's going to be coming so far as new developments for the Australian Christian Freedom Index?

Well, look, every year we'll be coming back.

That's our intention.

Obviously, we've got to keep raising the money to do so, and that's one of our big challenges.

But nonetheless, that's what we're believing for.

We've been going now for 15, 16 years, camera decoration.

And we've had the support of, as I said, several other organisations.

What are your thoughts here for listeners saying, you know, what can I do as an individual?