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I told them, I said, "I know some people who do this, and they seem to like it." So ended up obviously getting the job, and that was how I started.

Safeco had a great training program.

They were known for that, which I did not know at the time, but it was very helpful, I think, to my development of not just being, you know, here's a week's worth of stuff, and now, you know, here's 150 files, go at it.

I mean, it was months before I was actually on a desk.

And started out doing, like most of us, you know, homeowners claims and such, the dog bites and some auto, you know, and stuff.

Yeah.