Or it can start from a

schoolyard as well.

The first public space I think that we are in touch with or the playground.

Yeah, I think at the moment, at least with the Greek context that I'm most familiar with, It has a lot to do with, indeed, the public spaces that are not so well developed yet.

We're making steps towards that, but I think we still have lots to develop when it comes to managing the frictions between different users of public space.

Because you can see also discrimination happening or letting go of some public spaces because they are inhabited by a specific group of people that you don't want to deal with and focusing in others that might be easier to redevelop.

I think and I have this idea and also listening a little bit to the project that was from Sweden yesterday in our session.

How is your take on that?