But what are you struggling with? Because it looks from the outside, you look so happy.

Oh, no.

Literally everything.

I mean, I'm happy, but I'm very stressed.

And I have this constant thing in the back of my mind where I'm like, don't burn out, take care of yourself.

You know what I mean? Because it's so easy to just launch yourself 120% into everything and not take care of yourself.

And especially, like you said, when you're building your own business and it's your baby, you put all your money and all your time and your reputation in it and then like a factory like a warehouse messes up and lets you down and it's like not even in your control and you're the one who has to pick up those pieces like literally the times like it's been a friday saturday night and i'm up at like 3 a.m emailing like warehouse providers and labs and this and that i feel like um people on the outside think it's really glamorous but i like it it's really hard and like at the same time you're just working 24 7 on your dream

you said money time reputation out of those which is the one that that bothers you the most? Like if you lose your money, lose your time, lose your reputation, is reputation the one that bothers you?

You keep busy, obviously, then, with that title.

Yes, to all of those points.

Busyness is an interesting phrase, isn't it? I think active is a word I would use, sometimes feeling squashed, however, enjoying every minute.

The corporate and commercial team is headed up by myself, but brilliantly kind of executed by a fantastic team.

And that's the benefit and the brilliance of our firm.

is that every team has got brilliant people in it.

As regards the management board, that's myself, Joe and Jenny.

that,

key for our viewers in that treaty that we all need to agree upon to keep space safe, as we were talking

about? What's key? Space is a province for all humanity.

Everyone gets space.

No one can own space.

No one can put weapons of mass destruction in space.

You cannot have military installations in space.

Nations are required to... authorize and supervise their national activities in space.

How do you make good space policy when some people have outsized power? Elon Musk can give a thumbs up or a thumbs down to Volodymyr Zelensky's request for help with his Starlink system.

Can you tell me a little bit more about that? I mean, who's reading these reports? How does this influence, quote, official policy such as it is?

Yeah, I mean, that's a really good question because it's always hard to say, you know, we did X and Y happened.

You know, we're not a lobbyist group or anything like that.

And so you have to be like long term, you know, hey, we've been talking about this issue using this language for this many years and we're starting to see it being echoed and how, you know, government officials refer to it or things like that.

So you have to, you know.

be looking over the horizon for that sort of thing.

But I mean, really and truly, you know, we work not with, but, you know, I think people who read our reports and we interact with, I should say, are people from the State Department, both the side that works on civil space and that works on security space, the DOD, the Office of Space Policy, NOAA.

Sure.

Obviously, I'm familiar with that term, but tell us a bit more about actually what that is and, and what sort of impact is it having on our patients.

So your oral microbiome is the second largest microbiome after your gut, so it's made up of over 700 different bacteria, and, uh, those 700 bacteria make up two billion bacteria overall.

It's obviously the gateway to the rest of your body, and the oral microbiome has been associated, like I said, to over 50 systemic conditions.

So when the oral microbiome is in balance or symbiosis, that basically means that there's a really nice delicate balance of good and actually some bad bacteria as well.

Like, we all have bad bacteria.

That's entirely fine.

And in 2008, the Human Oral Microbiome Project came out, and that was through the Forsyth Institute.

Mm.

And what's your belief there? I know this research is fairly new, but do you think there is a, a causal relationship, a significant causal relationship between the health of our oral microbiome and our probability of developing some form of cancer?

I wouldn't yet say causal.

I think that for most cancers, it is multifactorial and there are a lot of things that can impact whether or not you get the cancer and how aggressive the cancer is.

Um, I do think that oral health and some specific oral bacteria, um, are risk factors and can definitely increase the, um, aggression of those cancers or even the initiation of them.

Um, there's also been research, and I think I'm waiting for the research to be published, on what they're doing is they've created a antibiotic which only kills that oral bacteria that I was talking about, so Fusobacterium nucleatum.

And they are going to be issuing that, uh, antibiotic to those patients who have the colorectal cancer which has the oral bacteria to see whether or not it slows down their progression or improves their, their prognosis.

So if I see those results and it shows it, then there's, for sure, a strong causative link between the two.

If someone's now curious about their oral microbiome and the work that you're doing, what is the sort of easiest entry point to learn more, to get themselves checked, or to, I don't know, to resolve some of the issues that are causal or a- a consequence of having a unhealthy microbiome? Where- where do they start? How do they find you?