What was that like for you at the time? What did you do before that that kind of enabled you to go from previous role into seeing this as a side hustle and then into actually growing this incredible, so well-known, so established six-figure company? What was that kind of transition period like for you?

So I was just like a normal, just a normal girl.

You know, it was 2011.

So how old was I then? Like, yeah, I wasn't even 30.

So I was like 28 or something.

I had, I just got with, I got with my husband in 2008.

And prior to that, I did like two years in Australia, like riding horses, like as a cowgirl on a ranch and work.

What was that like for you kind of picking that apart?