Yeah.

And that was one of the things that I'm like, as an adult you realize, like, I can really learn anything.

Like, I can learn anything.

I just have to decide I wanna do it, and I have to be willing to start.

Like, I think I took a test of, like, grade five maths, and there was, like, things that I couldn't do, and I was like, "Oh, don't you feel sick?" And then I was like, "No, this is great." And I would just do that in my spare time then, just, like, m- just, like, random math stuff 'cause it was so hard.

And kind of with your kid, right? Like, as he's going through things you should start to go through them with him and learn.

[laughs]Well, this is the one of the most, one of the things I love the most about being a parent is because this is exactly what you said, is this, they are a novice every day of their life, and that's why they grow so, you know, they grow so fast and it's, it helps you see the world through that kind of lens and like no, I love it.

But yeah, I can imagine also going from, you know, 12 hours a day with clients yapping your ass off to then sitting down in the middle of a pandemic having a baby and just being like, "Cool, I can't even leave the house and now I've just got to sit here with my own thoughts and like my new baby and [laughs] navigate this new space."

So tell us a little bit about your story and then what it is that you're doing today.

Thank you.

Yes.

I have been a hairstyling educator for over a decade, so I love teaching hairdressers.

That is a massive passion of mine.

And then how I got into using affiliate codes to sell your retail or digital retail, as I call it, was actually during the lockdowns of COVID.

So where I live, where I live in Melbourne, Australia...

Yeah