How do you respond to that?

Well, I think the first step in being able to respond to the spiritual impact of trauma is to realize that many members of our MDT are not fluent in the research, much less how to apply it.

That's the first step.

In fact, the study we did with Ted Cross documented that 82% of mental health providers said they We're not fluent in this research.

We're not sure how to provide it.

And for other members of the MDT, it even went downhill from there.

So clearly, we have a lot of work to do.

And it really did provide a range of resources and a range of approaches, I would say, as well.