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Marangoz has probably taken this journey, uh, you know, further than I have in terms of as far as Australia.

Um, [laughs] I haven't quite, quite made it over there yet.

But, um, uh, for me, I, um, I think probably I was first introduced to it, um, doing, when I was working in London, um, in, um, South London's, um, London Mor- Morley Trust.

I worked, uh, in Lewisham.

And, um, I did some solution-focused training, um, and, um, that was with...

I, I was... 'Cause I'm, I suppose my mind's gone to, I know in, um, I think it's the In Context in 2018, there's an article that Vicky wrote about, um, your experiences of Team of Life in school, and I was wondering really about Team of Life, particularly in that context and, and when you're thinking of a collective practice and why you think that's important, particularly for, for young people.