Does, uh, is, does the sector feel that way? Do you feel there's an opportunity for this to be different this time, given, you know, I think the first plans to, to look at this was sometime around the '80s where we were going to sort out the social care challenge?

Well, look, come on.

We, you know ...

We ...

By the time we get to need it as an aging individuals, it'll be ready I'm sure.

Um, and I mean, I do feel optimistic.

Uh, I ...

has all the ingredients to make this work.