How do you phrase that in, in Vanessa words?

Mm-hmm.

[clears throat] So there's this study that I read about, uh, some years ago, um, in a magazine in my doctor's office 'cause my, my phone had died and, um, you know, what else do you do when you're waiting other than read a silly magazine? [chuckles] And because my phone had died, I didn't get a chance to take a picture of the magazine.

So I've said this story so many times without ever actually having the resource, so at this point, I don't know if I'm making this up or if it really happened [chuckles] 'cause I've said it so many times.

So one day, I will find this article.

Anyways, I think I was reading an article in this business magazine.

Um, it was like a one-pager, front and back, and it was about, um, workplace burnout.

... bring compassion to the bully in all of us?