And so the only way you could study is by understanding how one thinks, and for that you'll need to think.

Well, maybe may I interrupt? I'm just, uh, uh, I'm trying to me- interpretate what Shaked just said.

I think maybe in mathematical, uh, talk, you always processing yourself.

You're, you're following...

When you, when you follow a proof, uh, of a theorem, uh, you, you, you are making something very...

You are active.

Uh, actively follow the, uh, the, the thinking process.

So we have these four mathematicians, three of them related, one of them a family friend, but they span different gen- generations, and they came together, each bringing their own approaches to work together on this problem.

And so the only way you could study is by understanding how one thinks, and for that you'll need to think.

Well, maybe, may I interrupt? I'm just, uh, uh, I'm trying to me- interpretate what Shaked just said-I think maybe in mathematical, uh, talk, you always processing yourself.

You're- you're following...

When you, when you follow a proof, uh, of a theorem, uh, you- you- you're making something very...

You're active.

Uh, actively follow the, uh, the- the thinking process.

Um, and it's maybe a bit different in, uh, other subjects that, uh, you are just following, you're absorbing.

So we have these four mathematicians, three of them related, one of them a family friend, but they span different gen- generations, and they came together, each bringing their own approaches to work together on this problem.