Were you looking for a mentor, trying to come into the, the sector through your PhD? What was the reason that you got involved?

So as I earlier pointed out, I looked at, uh, uh, I, I came across it, uh, through LinkedIn, um, r- uh, randomly, and when I read through, and I, I found it very interesting, and I wanted to further explore.

I, I looked at it on the website, and I emailed, and, uh, uh, the team was very, um, responsive, and, uh, they, uh, they spoke with me over the phone, and then I, uh, got the opportunity to attend, uh, the first e- event, um, in York, and, uh, that's where I...

Actually, the training over there, uh, from Sarah and others, uh, was amazing, and I...

That, that actually, uh, gave me, um, a broader understanding of, uh, how, what, what mentoring is actually in, in, in reality.

Especially in the professional side.

Another reason was, uh, because I did my bachelor's, I was in high school, and I took one year gap, and then bachelor's, and then one year gap, and then master's, and then one year gap, and a PhD.

Umar, any advice to someone looking at joining?