spread.

Yes, but...

there is a concern that somebody may have brought it into the country and we're trying to deal with that situation we're trying to deal with that fallout at this moment you now suddenly see that every you know every person every talking head with a platform we suddenly feel i need to jump on this new bandwagon because this is what is trending i need to go and say something i need to open their mouth and start saying things they have no knowledge about they have not read They are not updated.

They are not up to date.

They don't understand the responsibilities and strain that public health agencies and institutions face.

The Nigerian Center for Disease Control, right now you can imagine that the people who run that institution, I was fortunate to have met the Director General the NCDC conference in Accra, Ghana, I can assure you that they are not sleeping.

They are not sleeping well now because they are all over the place trying to make sure that this does not get out of hand, that whatever it is that is happening, that it is confined to just that index case and that's it.

What should that Nigerian do with that information or that knowledge? You say we all should toe the line and support this, while I feel that I'm not too sure these people are being sincere with their discoveries.

So could you just do a recap of what was discussed?

Absolutely.

So first of all, I want to begin by saying that the conversation about... protecting patients' rights in Nigeria is so fundamental and it's a conversation that every Nigerian should pay attention to because nobody wants to get sick, nobody hopes to get sick, but whether you like it or not, you would have something to do with the medical system, either yourself or a member of your family.

And when you engage with the medical system, you want to make sure that the medical system is actually acting in your best interests.

That's the motivation behind this conversation.

In our 51st episode, I was, I think I was physically in the studio, that was the time I was in Nigeria, I was physically in the studio to have this conversation with Kyodate.

And the context for this discussion was an ongoing case that my law practice was handling.

You understand? Yeah.

That is very-

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in which case, very specific, only when you're within the, the jurisdiction of that state, for example, Lagos State, that they can enjoy those rights.

Well, Clyde, the National Health Act 2014 is a federal legislation.

It was passed by the federal, the National Assembly, and that means that it applies throughout Nigeria, and therefore the rights, uh, and, uh, uh, obligations that are contained in that legislation applies to all patients within, uh, Nigeria.

It doesn't matter whether they are even Nigerians, in fact.

Matter of fact, even if they are foreigners, you know, they are patients.

Mm-hmm.