Did you do the Haka growing up? Did you learn the Haka or was it more so performing the Haka for the Tall Blacks, your first big occasion?

Yeah, so the first time I learned my first haka was probably when I was eight or nine years old.

And it was for my uncle's wedding.

So we had enough.

Again, my dad taught my brother and I.

Thinking back at it, it's actually pretty special.

I'm actually super grateful for that.

What makes a good big and how have you got those attributes or who has helped you achieve those attributes, do you think? An ultimate question.