So what are the biggest cultural or relational barriers preventing healthcare organizations from sharing and using data effectively?

It's a great question.

It's been a fascinating journey for us over these last few years as we really dug into this issue of why.

Why isn't our health data connected? We just described that it isn't.

And then the question that we've been asking is, why is that the case? Maybe it's this or maybe it's another thing.

And so we've gone all the way through all of the different pieces of legislation that define our health system, from the Canada Health Act to the Health Information Acts in provinces and up and down and everything.

And when you talk to some people, they'll say the Health Information Acts are permissive of better health information sharing and all of these kinds of things.

What have you learned from each other and why is it important that you both voice, sorry, why is it important that both voices are present when designing the future of healthcare?