office in San Diego.

Yeah, yeah, they do.

And so they were trying to branch out into Seattle and so help kind of start their office as a low billable Swiss army knife, anything they needed.

And then the more I did, the more I really just wanted to do intellectual property.

I come from a family of artists and musicians and small business owners.

And so the idea of protecting what people create and also coming up as an elder millennial and sort of the technological boom of the late 1900s and the 2000s, I was like, I remember the first cell phone.

I remember the first iPod.

Why should listeners be members and why should they be active members?