What is it like to be operating there? What are the challenges, the pain points and that sort of thing? And the good things, where is that happening?

Yeah.

So I think in the previous conversation we had, we touched on operating as a transport in South Africa.

I think we're all aware of the challenges that anyone faces in our economical climate.

Not only are we struggling in terms of economy that is basically not growing, but you've got the challenges of crime, road infrastructure that is actually declining, skills that is not being developed in our country.

Clients are really battling to get good drivers, reliable drivers.

So you've got a lot of theft within the industry due to poverty.

Are you finding that brokers are getting that right? That they see the value in embedding themselves almost in terms of understanding the clients in the space?