Why is it that the space in which you guys have been operating, which is the e-hailing space, has not been put under the same sort of regulatory disciplines, if you want to call them that, that the other taxi operators are put in? Why? Why has it not happened for you guys?

Look, I think from my perspective, it's a document that enables you to go to work within a certain area.

So if you remember, Uber is a different beast altogether because we operate from anywhere.

I can go here and get into Cape Town and drop off in Cape Town and pick up somebody and come with them to go there.

But with the permits, they give you a sort of a radius that you work within.

So the biggest pressure from the Meta Taxi Association and the Taxi Association is that we can go in anywhere.

And that's the biggest issue for them.

Do you, I suppose, as a bloc, think that that's a fair thing for them to raise? Or what are your thoughts about that?