... were you guys doing a lot of the music, uh, that you guys did as Ka'au Crater Boys? Was that kinda starting to form?

Uh, yeah.

We, we s- Ernie, uh, he, Ernie's the guy that knew so many songs.

I was like, "Wow, where, where are you learning songs from?" Uh, so he taught me a lot of songs.

And yeah, we was playing...

But then yeah, when we came back from, uh, Guam and Japan, then, um, we kind of went our separate ways.

Then one day I saw him at Ala Moana Center and I said, "Hey, Ernie, I see you playing mu- um, solo gig at Moose McGillycuddy's."

Who offered?

yeah.

So the sound guys, when they sound checked us, they went, oh, not bad.

So when did the Kyle Crater Boys come into it then? Kyle Crater Boys started in 90, but me and Ernie started playing music together from like 80.

We were known as E.T. You know, like the movie E.T.? Yeah.

We took the name as, hey, we'll be E.T., okay? So we started playing in clubs and stuff like that.

Was this all in Honolulu? Honolulu, yeah.

And then I said, hey, you know what, Ernie? If we keep doing what we're doing, one day somebody's going to come through the door and they're going to want to record us.

Why? I already have somebody.