
Troy Edgar
United States Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security
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Sep 7, 2026
From Strategy to Execution: Managing the Mission at Homeland Security
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Michael KeeganHOST
It may be a high level, but what does accountability look like in DHS? And how do you measure whether a component is performing at that level that you and the secretary would like? What do you do

Troy EdgarGUEST
if you don't? A couple different things that you look at from an accountability perspective is – first of all, federal government, especially when you've got a budget that big, it could be really easy to make it complex.

Troy EdgarGUEST
And what would mean the most in the executive branch? The president ran on a campaign, and he made commitments in his platform that need to be accomplished.

Troy EdgarGUEST
So If we get down into micromanaging to the outcomes at super low level, the president could have his four years and not achieve his goals.

Troy EdgarGUEST
So we don't want to be the arbiter of a bunch of things that don't mean anything at the highest level, which equate to the people that voted.
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Michael KeeganHOST
I'm wondering if you could share with us, to the level you can, how is DHS prioritizing and sequencing its response across this threat landscape? What are some of the ways you think about the threats?
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Todd StarnesHOST
Is there going to be an effort, and this may be above your purview, but again, defunding these sanctuary cities, what are some things that can be done at the federal level? You know, if these sanctuary cities are not going to be cooperative with Homeland Security, do you guys have workarounds?

Troy EdgarGUEST
Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, the one thing that, you know, the president's been very focused on is using the whole of government.

Troy EdgarGUEST
You know, when we kind of go through, I mean, Homeland Security, if you look at it from the highest level, 23 different components.

Troy EdgarGUEST
We talk a lot about, you know, law enforcement, like CBP, ICE, et cetera, Secret Service.

Troy EdgarGUEST
But, you know, we also have tools out there in FEMA where we administer the, you know, a lot of the emergency declaration activity and some of the different grants that are out there that help law enforcement.
Managing the Mission at Homeland Security: A Conversation with Troy Edgar, Deputy Secretary, U.S. Department of Homeland Security
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Michael KeeganHOST
I was just wondering if you could share, it may be a high level, but what does accountability look like in DHS? How do you measure whether a component is performing at that level that you and the secretary would like? What do you do if you don't?

Troy EdgarGUEST
A couple different things that you look at from an accountability perspective is first of all, federal government, especially when you've got a budget that big, it could be really easy to make it complex.

Troy EdgarGUEST
And what would mean the most in the executive branch? The president ran on a campaign, and he made commitments in his platform that need to be accomplished.

Troy EdgarGUEST
So If we get down into micromanaging to the outcomes at super low level, the president could have his four years and not achieve his goals.

Troy EdgarGUEST
So we don't want to be the arbiter of a bunch of things that don't mean anything at the highest level, which equate to the people that voted.
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Michael KeeganHOST
I'm wondering if you could share with us, to the level you can, how is DHS prioritizing and sequencing its response across this threat landscape? What are some of the ways you think about the
Managing the Mission at Homeland Security: A Conversation with Troy Edgar, Deputy Secretary, U.S. Department of Homeland Security.
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Troy EdgarGUEST
I-I guess, um, you know, first of all, uh, you can have a laundry list that would be pretty big of the different types of threats.

Troy EdgarGUEST
So one of the ways to facilitate priorities across governments or across agencies like between DHS, Department of Justice, Department of War, um, CIA, our intel side, all of that would be, um, executive orders.

Troy EdgarGUEST
So this, the president's allow-- you know, able really through the White House coordination to put their perspective in an executive order.

Troy EdgarGUEST
And a lot of people go, "Well, that's not a budget document, that's not authority," but it definitely sets a priority for the secretaries and the deputies to kind of do stuff.
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Michael KeeganHOST
What do you want, um, most for the American public who's listening to understand about what DHS does and what it takes to do it well?