How did that come about?

Once you quit indulging in yourself, you start seeing people.

I remember a lot of that time throughout those years when I was reading all those books and I was making those small changes, and I want to comment on this, 'cause this applies to what we're talking about.

We often think too big, and we make dreams rather than the actual small steps we should be taking, and make those goals, right? So a lot of us dream about these big elaborate steps we're gonna take.

We're gonna quit a- an addiction that's consumed us our entire life.

That's the dream, and we just think that's gonna happen, but it...

Nothing just happens.

And you talked about once you talk about it and bring it into the light, tell, tell us more about that, 'cause that's such an important piece of this sticking with a path to see that transformation.