Yeah, go

back, right back, right back.

So I'm probably going to go back about 10 years and I'll keep it kind of summarized and fairly pragmatic.

But essentially I started the fertility journey probably where a vast majority of blokes started in their mid thirties, just married, been married less than 12 months.

And we tried to start family forming.

And it's the classic story, right? So 12 months went by and no one in the clinical world seemed to raise an eyebrow or anything like that.

They were like, You just need to keep on going.

So what's next?