OK, Trina, what about that social media point that Cheryl was making there that everyone is just endlessly boasting on Facebook and TikTok and Instagram?

I think with social media as mentioned like Gen Z have grown up on it so it's something we're very used to like we're on it a lot well most of us are I definitely am so we're seeing other people do things and that's creating that inspiration for us as well I do think that there can always be too much of anything.

So if it is getting to the point where you're comparing yourself to others, which is like a very easy trap to fall in, then maybe you need a break from that.

And I think that's a way like your hobbies can become that safe space without having to necessarily post about it but then on the other side of things like for me one of my hobbies is doing creative makeup and i really enjoy doing that but i also enjoy making the content of me doing that the step by step tutorial so that's part of the hobby in a way and you like

differences do you notice between the generations, though, if any?

I don't think I do like yeah I'm not sure like we all just connect really well I wouldn't notice any like huge differences the only difference maybe from this conversation is sort of like the angle of how Gen X may view Gen Z through like social media and things but I think that's Just explain what you mean by that.

Just how like, for example, Gen Z, they can be very criticised of using social media too much, buying too many coffees.

We've seen it in the media, all of that.