Like I'm in a room I probably shouldn't be in.

Trying to think if there was a specific time.

I mean, it was really like around 19.

There was like a pretty strong inflection point.

Like we did a couple festivals that summer.

We did some sets at Dome Fest, which is like Pigeons Festival.

And then we did Peach Fest that summer.

Like how do you manage tour and shows and being surrounded by people who aren't sober?