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Trevor Sutton

Trevor Sutton

Senior Pastor of St. Luke Lutheran Church in Haslett/Lansing, Michigan, and author of "Redeeming Technology: A Christian Approach to Healthy Digital Habits."

Sep 25, 2026

JustinHOST
16:44
Good.
16:44
But I feel hurried when I know that we have to get out the door, and there are, you know, people waiting on me and, and time crunch and all that, and I just think, "This is two people.
16:57
Jesus has over 5,000 people that are waiting." But what does He do in that hurried moment? He stops for a moment of silence, blessing, and prayer, and I just love it.
17:11
What I've learned in the process of wrestling with this topic myself, and the book explores it, but, but trying to turn that into a practice of are we less hurried than we think, and what does it look like to stop for 45 seconds for gratitude, to recognize the presence of God vertically in the horizontal demands? Uh, what does it look like to, to give a moment and space for prayer in those moments of hurry? And what that does is that's just opening our eyes and our hearts and souls to vertical time amid the demands of horizontal time.
17:48
And I once had someone do this to me, and I found it very strange and very attractive.
17:53
We had just come from a meeting, and we were kinda going, going, going.
17:56
And, uh, before I was ready to move to the next thing and he said, "Hold on." And he sat there for, I don't know, 20 seconds to, [laughs] to silently just reflect on the conversations that had been had, close out that, that moment, and move into the next moment.

17 MINS LATER

JustinHOST
35:21
Mm.
4:52
How would you describe it to someone who hasn't, you know, go- gone online to see the videos of especially these humanoid robots and really the unbelievable kind of agility, ability that they seem to have? How far has it advanced?
5:07
Yeah.
5:07
So again, there's, there's kind of a tension here, where sometimes you would hear about this or interact with, uh, robots or, or watch a video, and you might be tempted to say, "Well, not very far." Certain things that, that a five-year-old can do, pouring a drink, pouring a cup of coffee, picking up a raspberry, some of those things are, are still very hard for humanoid robots.
5:28
So in some sense, you might be inclined to think, "Well, this technology has not come very far.
5:34
It has a whole lot further to go." But, uh, there are kind of several reasons to think that this technology is already very advanced and will be advancing very quickly, uh, very soon I think one of the main things that I would point listeners to is the, uh, development in fast-tracking learning for humanoid robots.
5:57
And so for a long time, the way that machine learning for robots has happened is kind of trial and error training, uh, reinforcement learning.
6:06
But a lot of times what that looks like is a human trainer working alongside a robot to train it in a very simple task.

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20:07
How will this technology or how could it po- potentially change our morality?

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