It, it's complicated stuff, isn't it?

it?Yeah, absolutely.

Look, addiction is, it's the most complex of issues, and, um, and you throw in crime and deprived communities, it just, it just compounds, you know.

Um, this, this issue's been incubated in our area for a long time now, and, you know, we're, we're, we're doing our best to respond to it.

And I, I think the DRIVE project's been a real, you know, it's really gone some way towards supporting people, but I think there's a long way to go, you know?

It's more likely to come to your door in a deprived community, is it?

Yeah.

Well, we, we've, we've been seeing this outset for a long time, Kieran, and, like, my heart goes out to Sinead and Sarah.