How did you, um, how did you get recruited [laughs] into the mahjong business?

Um, about four years ago, Tracy's mom, well, Tracy's mom's been playing for, at that point, seven years.

So it's, it's been about 11 or 12 now.

And we went out, I got recruited to come to the kitchen table, and it was the three of us, and then we played with Bob, and that's how I learned.

It took me about six to eight months to really get it, because we were only playing once a month, twice a month maybe there.

Yeah.

I, I said, you know, "Hey, this would be..." This particular one, it was a crocodile emboss, but it was a really low texture, and it had a, it was a plain leather, but it had this copper infused raised areas on it.

And it was the first one, and I said, "What if I cut this out in a square?" And we threw it out on the card table on, on the lawn, and threw some tiles on it and went, ba-bing, light switch-