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... which I know you know the Mazda 6 sedan.

It, th- this is effectively the electric Mazda 6.

Now it, it looks, it feels, and it behaves very much like a Mazda.

So it is built in China by Geely, but it's got Mazda finishing and Mazda badging on it.

Now, it does look and feel like a Mazda.

If I bought it, would I be okay with the fact that it was made in China? I think so, even though Mazda's got a very strong reputation for the cars that it's built over decades in Japan.

So now we're talking about, uh, there's a new model coming and what possibility of it being all electric possible.

Seriously.

Do you know something, seriously, that I've spoken to our man, Dr. Ross, about, which our listeners are not gonna like, but I say this as someone who turned 50 this year.

The older we get, the more sensitive to light our eyes become.

Yeah, but I'm saying that they are

... coming here tonight, this is something John's been talking about for years.

The back of Piermont, delivery rider on a bicycle, no lights, all in black gear, nothing reflective, riding down the middle of the road.

Is there a chance we'll see an easing off on electric vehicles as we reach a tipping point of people who do make trips, even if it's two hours up the freeway, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle

for some people? Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200,000 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment with the infrastructure that we have all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas over Easter, queues for charges as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long.

It will be because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a, a chance we'll see an easing off on, eh, electric vehicles as we reach a, a tipping point of people who do make trips, you know, even if it's two hours up the freeway, the, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle for some people?

Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we're, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

You know, i- I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment, with the infrastructure that we have, all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas, over Easter, queues for chargers as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, "Oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long." It will be, because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

We need significantly more chargers than we've got, especially public charging.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a, a chance we'll see an easing off on, eh, electric vehicles as we reach a, a tipping point of people who do make trips, you know, even if it's two hours up the freeway, the, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle for some people?

Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we're, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

You know, i- I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment, with the infrastructure that we have, all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas, over Easter, queues for chargers as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, "Oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long." It will be, because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

We need significantly more chargers than we've got, especially public charging, and we've started to advocate to incentivize and to subsidize electric vehicles from the ground up so that they've been attractive to a lot more people than they otherwise might have been without the infrastructure following suit.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a, a chance we'll see an easing off on, eh, electric vehicles as we reach a, a tipping point of people who do make trips, you know, even if it's two hours up the freeway, the, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle for some people?

Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we're, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

You know, i- I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment, with the infrastructure that we have, all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas, over Easter, queues for chargers as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, "Oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long." It will be, because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

We need significantly more chargers than we've got, especially public charging, and we've started to advocate to incentivize and to subsidize electric vehicles from the ground up so that they've been attractive to a lot more people than they otherwise might have been without the infrastructure following suit.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a chance we'll see an easing off on electric vehicles as we reach a tipping point of people who do make trips, even if it's two hours up the freeway, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle

for some people? Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200,000 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment with the infrastructure that we have all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas over Easter, queues for charges as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long.

It will be because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a, a chance we'll see an easing off on, uh, electric vehicles as we reach a, a tipping point of people who do make trips, you know, even if it's two hours up the freeway, the, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle for some people?

Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we're, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

You know, i- I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment, with the infrastructure that we have, all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas, over Easter, queues for chargers as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, "Oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long." It will be, because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

We need significantly more chargers than we've got, especially public charging, and we've started to advocate to incentivize and to subsidize electric vehicles from the ground up so that they've been attractive to a lot more people than they otherwise might have been without the infrastructure following suit.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a, a chance we'll see an easing off on, uh, electric vehicles as we reach a, a tipping point of people who do make trips, you know, even if it's two hours up the freeway, the, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle for some people?

Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we're, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

You know, i- I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment, with the infrastructure that we have, all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas, over Easter, queues for chargers as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, "Oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long." It will be, because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

We need significantly more chargers than we've got, especially public charging.

Not all of those brands are gonna be able to be sustained by the market, so what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a, a chance we'll see an easing off on, uh, electric vehicles as we reach a, a tipping point of people who do make trips, you know, even if it's two hours up the freeway, the, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle for some people?

Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we're, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

You know, i- I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment, with the infrastructure that we have, all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas, over Easter, queues for chargers as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, "Oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long." It will be, because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

We need significantly more chargers than we've got, especially public charging.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a, a chance we'll see an easing off on, uh, electric vehicles as we reach a, a tipping point of people who do make trips, you know, even if it's two hours up the freeway? The, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle for some people.

Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we're, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

You know, i- I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment, with the infrastructure that we have, all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas, over Easter, queues for chargers as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, "Oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long." It will be, because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

We need significantly more chargers than we've got, especially public charging.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a chance we'll see an easing off on electric vehicles as we reach a tipping point of people who do make trips, even if it's two hours up the freeway, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle

for some people? Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200,000 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment with the infrastructure that we have all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas over Easter, queues for charges as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long.

It will be because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a, a chance we'll see an easing off on, eh, electric vehicles as we reach a, a tipping point of people who do make trips, you know, even if it's two hours up the freeway, the, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle for some people?

Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we're, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

You know, i- I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment, with the infrastructure that we have, all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas, over Easter, queues for chargers as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, "Oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long." It will be, because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

We need significantly more chargers than we've got, especially public charging.

Not all of those brands are gonna be able to be sustained by the market, so what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a, a chance we'll see an easing off on, uh, electric vehicles as we reach a, a tipping point of people who do make trips, you know, even if it's two hours up the freeway? The, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle for some people.

Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we're, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

You know, i- I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment with the infrastructure that we have all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas, over Easter, queues for chargers as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, "Oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long." It will be because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

We need significantly more chargers than we've got, especially public charging, and we've started to advocate to incentivize and to subsidize electric vehicles from the ground up so that they've been attractive to a lot more people than they otherwise might have been without the infrastructure following suit.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a chance we'll see an easing off on electric vehicles as we reach a tipping point of people who do make trips, even if it's two hours up the freeway, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle

for some people? Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200,000 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment with the infrastructure that we have all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas over Easter, queues for charges as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long.

It will be because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Is there a, a chance we'll see an easing off on, eh, electric vehicles as we reach a, a tipping point of people who do make trips, you know, even if it's two hours up the freeway? The, the logistics around a purely electric vehicle are still a little bit of a hurdle for some people.

Yeah, they're absolutely a hurdle for some people.

I think we're, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg.

You know, i- I've always said if we got to 20 or 30% of new vehicle sales at the end of the year, so if we sold a million new cars and 200 to 300,000 of them were electric, you'd see at the moment, with the infrastructure that we have, all sorts of challenges out on the road.

We've already seen up and down the major highways on the East Coast at Christmas, over Easter, queues for chargers as everybody hits the road.

Now, the people who disagree with me will say, "Oh, well, that's just part of the uptake and that won't be a problem for very long." It will be, because the rollout of the infrastructure has not accelerated.

We need significantly more chargers than we've got, especially public charging.

So what do buyers need to be thinking about if they are looking at an EV?

Have you ever done anything like that when you're sitting there watching Bathurst? Have you ever felt your arms going up and pretending you're driving?

Yes.

Just before I answer that question, just before I answer that question, out of a mark of respect to you, last week when I was hosting, you'll be pleased to know when you were on leave, I was filling in for you.

In the way that you retire a jersey when a great's played for the team, we didn't play the Mr Magoo thing.

Oh, really? No, you weren't here.

And that's your theme.

So we didn't play it.

If you had it and you liked it, would you keep it? Or would you think, look, I'll get out of it while I can and go and buy another prestige car? Such a good question, Steve.

this was the passenger front door.

Right.

So when you open the door, there's a little plastic guard that pops out to the edge of the door so that you don't scrape the edge of your door on a wall, a column, whatever.

Um, that should absolutely be covered by warranty, mate, especially if you can prove that you haven't been smashing your door up against other things, which you will be able to do 'cause your door won't have any marks on it, and it'll be like new.

So I'd keep pushing it with them.

If you don't have any luck, let me know and I'll follow it up with Skoda.

But A, it doesn't surpri- I was about to say to you, tell me what they've quoted you to repair it.

Mm.

Oh, really?

No, you weren't here, and that's your theme, so we didn't play it.

Um, I have not strapped myself into a chair.

I, I hate playing computer games and pretending I'm doing things.

However, unless I'm actually doing it.

However, I do have one of those stationary bicycle trainers.

Uh, but as you can tell by the look of me, I don't use it enough at all.

Or would you think, "Look, I'll get out of it while I can and, and go and buy another prestige car," like maybe a Lexus or something like that?

It's nice, but is it over the top, or...?

Yeah, look, I think a lot of this connected car stuff is over the top.

I mean, I frequently jump into a car that's sort of five to ten years old and it doesn't have all of this crazy up-to-date electronic stuff in it.

And I find it quite refreshing.

You get in the car, you turn it on, you put it in gear and you drive.

And it's all related to the idiot behind the wheel, in this case me, and me making the decisions of what I'm doing and what I'm not doing.

So, look, I think some of it...

Yep.

Now, the other one that I think everyone's going to love is this next one you want to talk about, which relates to Triple M.

Yeah, that's right.

This is the Dr. Dan edit of the Triple M theme here.

But what wasn't really acknowledged all that much at the time was that that excerpt had been lifted from a song calling itself Journey of a Fool.

Or the Terror Suite, if you like.

It was actually released by Mike Batt.

but at the end of Triple M's cut I'll play you some of that mic bat one and it's absolutely no perfect you won't believe it but of course they had the goodwill to credit mic bat on the singles label but unfortunately the mere mentions of it went almost unnoticed over the years because the popularity of Dr Dan and of course stuff that went with it and then of course Slash many years later had his version but we're going to play Dr Dan once from 85 so let's have a listen to that Bye.

too clever do

What's going on? Why have they done this?

That's a very good question you ask, Olivia.

Thank you.

I do know that you came up with that one as well.

This is fascinating.

So Isuzu's D-Max is one of the more popular dual cabs on the market in Australia.

It has been for some time.

want Dr Google's help for

put your booking in?

Yeah, yeah.

They asked if I wanted two and I said, no, no, just one for the moment.

But this is a spectacular, a spectacular exhibition.

I think The good thing with premium vehicles like this, and this probably will cost about 400 grand, right? So it won't be cheap.

But I think the reality, and it's called the Bentley Torcal or Torcal, depending on how you pronounce it.

But the big thing to, I guess, let your listeners know is the thing that makes sense to me about premium electric vehicles is there's never been a cheap Bentley or a cheap Porsche or a cheap Ferrari.

Now, what are they doing? What are they doing to replace the classic growl? Yeah.

It's quite a discussion over the last couple of days.

Good evening, John.

Good evening, everyone.

I'll tell you who's been asleep at the wheel.

The Energy Minister, Chris Bowen.

He's been asleep at the wheel.

And look, let me remind your listeners, John, that if it was possible for me to steal your thunder, I would.

$20,000 for an electric car.

Why is that?

Oh, yeah, I didn't really explain that very well.

So good follow-up question.

The reason people in outback areas prefer diesel is when you're carrying jerry cans with extra diesel, or if you've got a long-range tank in your patrol, for argument's sake, and you've got 120 or 150 or sometimes 250 litres of diesel, Diesel is a lot more stable, especially under higher temperatures than petrol is.

So when you've got diesel in jerry cans hanging off the back of vehicles or on roof racks, it's technically a little safer out in remote areas.

If you're just going to use the fuel tank in the vehicle and you're not going to carry extra fuel, that's less of a concern.

But when you're doing something like a Simpson Desert Crossing or if you're doing the Oodnadatta Track or if you're going to go and do the Tanami or going to remote areas in cape york or in the northern territory and you need to carry extra diesel extra fuel it's preferable that you have a diesel

$20,000 for a small car.