Travis, can you tell us about what led you into law and what work looks like for you now?

Thanks, Clem.

I feel like it's going to be a little bit boring compared to what Tim said, but anyway, we'll give it a go and see what happens.

I guess everybody approaches things or comes to their current career in a different way.

I ended up practising law a little bit by accident, so...

I had a strong science background at school and a real interest in science and mathematics, which you think that managed to sort of translate into a career in law.

Come out the back end of school and I got enough marks to get into law and it's like, oh, okay, maybe I'll give that a go.

perspective and experience, how has working in this space and youth justice stretched or challenged some of your own assumptions?