
Travis Fairbairn
Travis Fairbairn of 30 West Consulting manages the Kindling private lending program and is a former corporate jet pilot who now teaches alternatives to traditional retirement accounts.
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Sep 14, 2026
Why He Stopped Relying on Traditional Retirement Accounts
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David BefortHOST
What did that mean to you? What did that look like? What were you involved in? Well, David, where does everyone start in real

Travis FairbairnGUEST
I mean, everyone, you know, when they're talking about getting into real estate investing, 95% of the time they're talking about single family homes.

Travis FairbairnGUEST
So I ended up finding BiggerPockets and joining that forum and engaging in that forum and learning and just getting books that were published through BiggerPockets and And I actually set a goal back, I don't know, maybe 2017, 2018.

Travis FairbairnGUEST
I'm going to go try to meet with someone that's local that I met on the BiggerPockets forum.
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David BefortHOST
But what's really going on behind the scenes of real estate purchases with the banks? Why don't you tell us about notes?