So I'm curious, right? Why do you believe so many people still feel stuck? even with more conversations around mental health happening today?

I believe, and that comes from my experiences as well as I had a son who was diagnosed as severe ADHD, but he was very, very angry.

And I watched what everybody else had done, like I had done my own journey.

and transformed enough to change outcomes in my life and attract a loving, kind human being that respected me and loved me.

And through all of those trials and errors, I started to see things that I didn't see before.

And then I had to deal with this child who was so, so angry and getting himself into so much trouble.

And I suppose that the system's solution was to give him a very restrictive tablet.

How do you think people can begin to take control of their mental health and taking their power back?

How do we stay OK with that and build the muscle to decide better?

Yes.

What a great question, Jerry.

So what I would look to is certain examples from the biggest, arguably best companies in the world.

So let's look at Amazon, where experimentation is mandated and failure is viewed not as a risk, but almost as a necessity to make sure that the decisions they're making are the right decisions.

We have to get comfortable first and foremost with our risk tolerance and our willingness to embrace experimentation and failure, such that we can learn, improve, and move forward.

The next just comes from old-fashioned deep understanding.

How much of that ownership and that mindset is at the top or is it a bottoms up approach? And how do we think about what we can do, you know, to build that as a as a just a this is how we do things rather than this is a tool that we rely on when things go bad.