Would you agree with that?

I think so, yes.

Um, I think the biggest difference is that we were almost taught that the topography of our services is what defines our services, which is very unlike behavior analysts because we really focus on function and ultimately the function of NDBI is very much the same as DTT.

And if anything, it might sometimes be the best way to start because you might have to skip the generalization process, right, that we often have to go through with DTT to more naturalistic strategies.

So yeah, I agree.

If you guys-- I'm sure you guys have already done it, but can you speak to that a little bit?

Yeah, I'd be happy to.

Um, I do think it feels initially like you are abandoning your science a little bit or maybe your training and everything that you've been taught.