And Tracie?

Yeah, I totally agree, you know, with everything that Angelique has said, and kudos to, to Lonnie for being able to withstand, um, so much, so much that, you know, we can surmise, so much that we know, that we've seen, and so much that we will never know.

I think, um, his sort of graceful sunsetting, uh, is, uh, a testimony to who he is and to his fortitude, and to the fact that, you know, this is someone who is one of the chief layers of the foundation and the weaver of the fabric, of the cultural fabric for the last 30 years in this country.

Um, his hand is in so many histor- history and interpretive centers, um, from Chicago, uh, to South Carolina.

He has been there and, uh, and I, and I think that, uh, that is something that, you know, we have to remind ourselves.

You know, we look at the long list, and I'm looking at that long arc of, of thinking about, um, the National Archives, Library of Congress, NEA, National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for Humanities, The Kennedy Center.

Looking at all of those leaders, each of them with impe- unimpeachable records, right? Each of them, uh, some of the greatest civic leaders of our time, uh, have, uh, you know, it's, it's been such a, such a terrible domino effect.

And we have to, like, get activated on what is happening there because that is, that is the, one of the biggest battlegrounds that we have in front of us.