So can you give us just a little reality check to start with? [laughs]

I can, I can, Aimee.

And what ...

It ...

I suppose it's taking you down the same path that I have, uh, gone down.

I was invited to, uh, deliver this webinar months and months ago, probably more than six months ago, and at the start, I was like, "Oh, yeah, I'll be talking all about what's wrong with, uh, using MHT, what's the, uh, the issues around side effects, how we can support them, and what women can do as an alternative." That's, that was the m- I have to admit, that's the mindset that I kind of was going into.

Um, I had been seeing a shift over the, over the, uh, past few years with a number of patients and taking ...

Mm-hmm