Who is he kinda off the field when he doesn't have the helmet on? Maybe give Packer fans a little bit of an insight into, into the guy they're getting.

You know what? Um, at least from the impression that he gave me, um, like I said, he's a real ball junkie.

He's always texting me or sending me clips on Stephon Gilmore or Kendall Fuller or guys that, that are making plays on YouTube, "Hey man, Coach, this is what you was talking about with the quick game," and he's always sending me stuff, and it could be 10:00, 11:00 at night and I'll get a text on my phone and he's sending me an example of...

So he's a, he's truly a ball junkie, "Hey Coach, this is what you were talking about in practice today," and man, or just, "Oh, okay, I could show this to the group 'cause, you know, it's just a really good football player or something." So he's, he- when does he turn off from the football side? And then, you know, I, I imagine whatever time he gives to his girlfriend, but when he's off and not in the building, he's, he's, he seems like he's just doing a lot of football or watching a lot of football or he's with his girl and there's not much else, um, at least the impression I got that he's doing, you know?

And, and just lastly, before we let you go here, uh, your favorite part about coaching Brandon Cecé, and then maybe something you, you think and wouldn't be afraid telling him that he maybe needs to work on at the next level to really become a starting caliber NFL corner.

Favorite part is that he just showed up day in and day out and was a pro.

Um, really brought maturity to our group because he led by example.

Um, he just, like I said, just being a pro and, and, and doing the same thing over day in, day out, whether it was in the meeting room, in the weight room, it was just s- so, so much consistency, um, there.