because, you know, I don't know about you, but I tend to learn more from the things that went wrong.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Well, and that's, you know, of course, there's this a lot of this all stems for me from, you know, my start whenever I kind of started in on my own shop.

So we started our shop in 2006.

So this year is 20 years.

So in when 2006, when I went and started my shop up and started running i started missing the things that i wasn't getting regularly with the conventions right whether it was mbna or uh at that back then it was mbsw for us and i started missing that camaraderie that we would get where we could have these conversations and i'm trying to learn how to build a business and so that's where the monument builders Facebook group came from that we started in 2009.

So if you haven't seen that, please reach out and get involved in that and all the modules that are coming down the pike because it's all about education and training.

But what do you remember from that day and what the vibe was like?

Yeah, I was in a bullpen, especially with Johnny dropped the ball.

I mean, that was a I mean, from the opening, I remember Clint Barmas came over from the Rockies.

We didn't have much postseason experience on the team, especially guys that had come up through the Pirates.

So he had always talked about like everybody's in their seats for the national anthem.

It's playoff baseball.

It's different.

What was your relationship like with your team broadcasters throughout your entire career? Giants, Angels, Dodgers, and, of course, your favorite guys here in Pittsburgh.