And even if they weren't deliberately mocking what transpired, the fact that it appears that way, it all comes back to the optics.

Oh, no doubt.

No doubt.

And the first time I saw it this morning, I thought, you have got to be joking, putting yourself in that situation.

If they can explain this any other way, well, good luck to them.

But I think we all knew what it was.

And it's a shame.

And you always know, in this day and age, it has happened to other clubs, it can happen to yours, there are always phones, there are always people watching, and if something happens... it's going to get out.

And even if they weren't deliberately mocking what transpired, the fact that it appears that way, it all comes back to the optics.

Oh, no doubt.

No doubt.

And the first time I saw it this morning, I thought, you have got to be joking, putting yourself in that situation.

If they can explain this any other way, well, good luck to them.

But I think we all knew what it was.

And it's a shame.

And you always know, in this day and age, it has happened to other clubs, it can happen to yours, there are always phones, there are always people watching, and if something happens, it's going to get out.

Um, if you're on the list management team, are you giving Pendles another year?

Uh, look, it's a, it's a tight one.

Um, I, I'd probably...

Look, and I love Pendles, and P- Pendles and the club, and, and just remember, no one's above the club.

But I, I just...

My thinking would be maybe not in that I just mentioned those six, seven players who've shown they can play.

And if you, if you keep getting roles in, he'll only probably play fourteen to fifteen, y- you know.

Mm.

Um, if you're on the list management team, are you giving Pendles another year?

Uh, look, it's a, it's a tight one.

Um, I, I'd probably...

Look, and I love Pendles, and P-Pendles and the club, and, and just remember, no one's above the club.

But I, I just...

My thinking would be maybe not, in that I just mentioned those six, seven players who've shown they can play, and if you, if you keep getting roles in, he'll only probably play fourteen to fifteen, y-you know.

Um, if he plays, there's no issue.

Mm.

And by all accounts, he really set up that Brisbane backline to what it is today and to what it has become, the premiership dynasty of the Lions.

Yeah, well, look, there's an example.

That's a great example that you pick up.

But, you know, it always doesn't work that way.

No.

But, no, look, Scotty Pennery...

And the one thing you've got to understand, Scotty Pennery and the club will get together and say, OK, do we want to get it done or do we want to do something else? Do we want to retire him? And the club overbears that.

Where do you think they're at as a club leading into the last couple of rounds of the season? They currently sit in eighth spot, and obviously they're most likely going to be a part of that wildcard position.

And by all accounts, he really set up that Brisbane backline to what it is today and to what it has become, the premiership dynasty of the Lions.

Yeah, well, look, there's an example.

That's a great example that you pick up.

But, you know, it always doesn't work that way.

No.

But, no, look, Scotty Pennery...

And the one thing you've got to understand, Scotty Pennery and the club will get together and say, OK, do we want to get it done or do we want to do something else? Do we want to retire him? And the club overbears that.

And obviously, they're most likely going to be a part of that wildcard position.

Hey, what did you think last night of the booing?

Oh, look, it's a bit of overkill because you knew it was going to happen.

If you didn't know it was going to happen, I don't know where you've been.

Because during the week on media, certain media circles and on socials, the question was asked, will the crowd boo Isaac Quayne? Well, as soon as you ask that question, Jack, you know what's going to happen.

they're going to boo.

And there's normally...

And let me tell you, it's like your kids.

was a weird one, though, wasn't it? I get why they boo players who they think are always dark or get easy free kicks or whatever it might be, but this wasn't even that.

Tony, what are you hearing on the Carlton and Essendon coaching positions?

Not a lot.

Not a lot.

I'm really, it's an intriguing situation that Josh Brazier said he didn't want it.

He wasn't ready for it.

Over the last couple of weeks, he's learned a lot.

The footy manager we had on 3AW two weeks ago said he's still learning.

This year, it's the stand rule combined with the protected area.

Tony, what are you hearing on the Carlton and Essendon coaching positions?

Not a lot.

Not a lot.

I'm really, it's an intriguing situation that Josh Brazier said he didn't want it.

He wasn't ready for it.

Over the last couple of weeks, he's learned a lot.

The footy manager we had on 3AW two weeks ago said he's still learning.

This year, it's the stand rule combined with the protected area.