As an announcer, how do you call a show when you're personally feeling everything happening in front of you?

Well, I think I've always been able to shut things out.

Uh, I'm, I am an emotional person, but I'm not a very over the top emotional person, uh, unless it comes to my dogs.

Um, but, uh, I've always been the type of person to shut things out and know that I've got a job to do and, uh, try to focus on that.

Uh, I, uh, it goes back to this too, Tim, when, uh, when I first started doing TV, you know, I was just a, a minor league baseball announcer that the Crockett's, uh, happened to like, and pushed me into wrestling.

And, um, well, I, I lobbied for it hard.

Because I was a wrestling fan and you couldn't make a living off minor league baseball.

didn't go through glass yeah yeah

Pretty much.

But it's the most interesting thing in the world.

And if you're a wrestling guy, you saw all the pictures in the magazines of Bruno Sammartino and I can pull off.

superstar Billy Graham, all that.

Muhammad Ali.

Muhammad Ali, yeah.

So it was a big deal for me.

You're not on the show.

Okay.

Yeah.

When, uh, when, when Herd started.

Uh, before then it was just Dusty and Jim, or Dusty obviously, and then George Scott.

You remember George Scott's first...

I, I tell this story a lot.

George Scott's first production meeting, we were all in TBS, and I call it was, like, one of those great moments.

Right.

Okay.

Yeah.

I, I...

That's a good way of putting it.

I, uh, I always considered myself...

I always thought it wasn't about me, a- and it was about the athletes in the ring, and I've always...

A- and I think maybe that's part of the longevity of what I've done because you, you don't make it about the announcer.

Mm.