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Tony Lyons

Tony Lyons

Nov 2, 2026

31:13
What is it?
31:15
Yeah, so, you know, last week I got on and I asked – the whole war room posse to get behind Peter's book, Why Fauci Must Rot in Prison.
31:24
And I said, you know, go to stores, buy them, go online, buy them anywhere you can find them, get your friends to buy them.
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Let's force the New York Times to put it on the bestseller list.
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And just to put it into context, this was a book that was censored in almost every way that you can censor a book.
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And like Laura Logan said, you know, if it's not true, why do you have to censor it? Why do you have to use propaganda and lies and keep it out of bookstores and and libraries and do all of those kinds of things.
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Why does the mainstream media have to ignore it? Why does Barnes and Noble not have a single copy in any store? Why does YouTube have to censor it? The media has been protecting Dr.

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37:22
What is the importance, sir? Give me a minute on the importance of a book reading public.
77:22
What is it?
77:24
Yeah, so, you know, last week I got on and I asked...
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the whole war room posse to get behind Peter's book, Why Fauci Must Rot in Prison.
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And I said, you know, go to stores, buy them, go online, buy them anywhere you can find them, get your friends to buy them.
77:39
Let's force the New York Times to put it on the bestseller list.
77:42
And just to put it into context, this was a book that was censored in almost every way that you can censor a book.
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And like Laura Logan said, you know, if it's not true, why do you have to censor it? Why do you have to use propaganda and lies and keep it out of bookstores? and libraries and do all of those kinds of things.

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83:31
What is the importance, sir? Give me a minute on the importance of a book reading public.
23:34
Give us a report from the field, sir.
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Yeah, we had an incredible night there.
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So we had all the Maha dream team and, you know, Zach Lane is the Maha dream candidate, but we had Bobby Kennedy, Cali means Zen Honeycutt.
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We had Joe Latipo, Joel Salatin.
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I mean, it was just a great night.
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It went on for about two hours.
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There were a thousand people there.

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29:48
Your response, sir?
20:46
Give us a report from the field, sir.
20:50
Yeah, we had an incredible night there.
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So we had all the Maha Dream team.
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And, you know, Zach Lane is the Maha Dream candidate.
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But we had Bobby Kennedy, Cali Means, Zen Honeycutt.
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We had Joe Latipo, Joel Salatin.
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I mean, it was just a great night.

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27:01
Your response, sir?
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Can you give us an update on that?
16:53
Yeah.
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So, you know, the first thing you should think about is that the amount of money that pharmaceutical companies have been paying on lobbying has skyrocketed in the last 18 months.
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There's really good data on that.
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So they are using every trick in the book.
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They're trying to turn people against each other.
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They're making up stories.
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Given the heated contest we're in right now, why Peter Navarro's book now and why do you need to buy it and why do you need to read it now?
17:38
Can you give us an update on that?
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Yeah.
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So, you know, the first thing you should think about is that the amount of money that pharmaceutical companies have been paying on lobbying has skyrocketed in the last 18 months is really good data on that.
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So they are using every trick in the book.
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They're trying to turn people against each other.
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They're making up stories.
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They're getting their corrupt friends in the media to write stories.
19:30
Given the heated contest we're in right now, why Peter Navarro's book now and why do you need to buy it and why do you need to read it now?
37:56
Tony.
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Yeah.
37:59
So let's get back to it.
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So here's why you should go and buy Why Fauci Must Ride in Prison right away.
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And the answer is that this is the follow up to Bobby Kennedy's book, The Real Anthony Fauci, the most censored book of our generation.
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And Peter Navarro's book is being censored in the same kinds of ways.
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So it's not in Barnes and Noble stores.

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Who's out there in the mainstream media that really needs to be held accountable here?
31:34
What is it about Trump that has triggered these guys with Trump derangement? Cindy, have you heard, have you heard De Niro right now? He's literally having a breakdown on the stage, sir.
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He is.
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He's kind of a crazy guy when you think about it.
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But De Niro, let me just say this clearly, he's a fraud, he's a fake.
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He's been co-opted.
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He's been captured.
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Go back to the videotape.
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Sir
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What is it about Trump that has triggered these guys with Trump derangement? Sidney, have you heard, have you heard De Niro right now? He's literally having a breakdown on the stage, sir.
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He is.
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He's kind of a crazy guy when you think about it, but De Niro, let me just say this clearly, he's a fraud, he's a fake, he's been co-opted, he's been captured.
29:48
Go back to the videotape.
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Look him up and look at a speech that he gave in March and April, a couple of speeches in 2016.
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He was on Bobby Kennedy's side.
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He believed that vaccines had caused autism in a relative of his.
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Sir.
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Right.
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And, and that, I think, is really at the core of what publishers ought to do and what the experience of reading ought to include.
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And I, and I think so much now of the reading that people do is just to confirm all their biases, and that, and that it's just really a, a waste of time, that they're told that reading in itself is such a great thing.
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I think critical reading is a great thing.
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I think reading where you're not sure what you believe beforehand, where that reading might influence the way you live the next day of your life and every day for the rest of, of your life.
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You know, that you're, you really come to a book with an openness to ideas that makes it possible for you to absorb theories and propositions and narratives that where you may actually say, "I think the way I'm living isn't perfect.
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Maybe I should do things differently.

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16:11
Now, Mr. Lyons, were you very much surprised by the pushback against Kennedy's book? I mean, were you fearful? Did you think, "Oh my God, this is much worse than I thought"?
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It's only the fact that they control the narrative, you know, with media that keeps this suppressed.
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Yeah, I mean, one thing that most people don't know is that all around the world, in every country except two countries, you can't place pharmaceutical ads on television.
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There's a reason for that, because you should go to a doctor and you should discuss health outcomes.
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It shouldn't be something that's advertised.
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And the problem with the advertising is that it then controls all the media that accepts that advertising.
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So TV shows, I mean, we have heard from certain TV shows that they get 60 or 70% of their advertising dollars from pharmaceutical companies.
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And then they get a lot of money from big food companies.

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28:48
How do you think we look heading into the midterms when it comes to meeting the needs of all those echo chambers?
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Uh, Tony Lin's thoughts.
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Yeah.
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My feeling is that, you know, Peter's book is so important because it's the inside story.
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It's the story nobody's heard before of, of some of the details of what Dr. Fauci did during this period.
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And what you learn from that is the type of person that he was over a 50-year period, and how it was possible for somebody to become ...
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You know, to get that much power, to lie his way to the top, to fail his way to the top.
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There's no business, no organization where somebody can fail so spectacularly in every area of public health.
40:53
Tony Lin?
37:47
Tony Lyons, thoughts?
37:50
Yeah, my feeling is that, you know, Peter's book is so important because it's the inside story.
37:55
It's the story nobody's heard before of of some of the details of what Dr. Fauci did during this period.
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And what you learn from that is the type of person that he was over a 50 year period and how it was possible for somebody to become, you know, to get that much power.
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to lie his way to the top, to fail his way to the top.
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There's no business, no organization where somebody can fail so spectacularly in every area of public health.
38:24
Everything that he was meant to prevent got worse.
40:24
Tony Lyons.
0:58
So sit back and let's get right into my conversation with Tony Lyons.
1:04
First up, we have Peter Navarro, and he's one of only three senior White House officials who remained with President Trump from the 2016 presidential campaign all the way to the end of his first term in office.
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And he's now serving as senior counselor to the president for trade and manufacturing.
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Peter's a noted China scholar, a sought-after public speaker, and an award-winning professor emeritus at the University of California, Irvine.
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He's also the author of several best-selling books, and his latest, While Fauci Must Rot in Prison, is an excellent book, and it's set for release next month.
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Welcome, Peter.
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Great to have you on again.

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7:19
Thanks to Tony Lyons and Skyhorse for turning this book around quickly.
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Okay, assistant.
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That's what he thinks.
25:30
He's not 100% sure, but that's what it looks like.
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And the county coroner in Pennsylvania says that he thinks it's false information.
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You know, even the county coroner in their own state says it's not real.
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So, you know, Kennedy's trying to figure out who these deaths were, whether they were even deaths, and if they were deaths, whether they were measles deaths.
25:51
So this is all about midterms.

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50:24
Tony, talk to us about this fight and Bobby Kennedy's punch back on Josh Shapiro.
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Okay, assistant
27:43
That's what he thinks.
27:44
He's not 100% sure, but that's what it looks like.
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And the county coroner in Pennsylvania says that he thinks it's false information.
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You know, even the county coroner in their own state says it's not real.
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So you know, Kennedy's trying to figure out who these deaths were, whether they were even deaths, and if they were deaths, whether they were measles deaths.
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So this is all about midterms.

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53:41
Tony, talk to us about this fight and Bobby Kennedy's punch back on Josh Shapiro.
19:44
Why is that so, sir?
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I mean, it's a crazy story because Paul Thorsen is brought over here as a visiting scientist from Denmark, so it ties right into the H1B1 story, that he has no loyalty to the country, no loyalty to our families, to our children.
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He's brought over here for one reason and one reason only, to prove that there was no link between vaccines and autism.
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And, you know, guess what he found.
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He found that there was no link, and there were just tons of studies by him, authored by him, where he's the lead scientist on it, where he's determining...
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And it's...
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And, and the CDC website for years, for years and years, was littered with his research proving that vaccines are safe and effective and that there was nothing to worry about.
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Why is that so, sir?
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I mean, it's a crazy story because Poul Thorsen is brought over here as a visiting scientist from Denmark, so it ties right into the H1B1 story.
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That he has no loyalty to the country, no loyalty to our families, to our children.
20:24
He's brought over here for one reason and one reason only, to prove that there was no link between vaccines and autism.
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And, you know, guess what he found? He found that there was no link, and there were just tons of studies by him, authored by him, where he's the lead scientist on it, where he's determining...
20:44
And it's, and, and the CDC website for years, for years and years, was littered with his research proving that vaccines are safe and effective, and that there was nothing to worry about.

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I'm gonna have you guys back on, but frame how big a deal this is, sir.
29:56
This is an incredibly big deal because the CDC was never gonna say that there was a connection between vaccines and autism because they thought their job was simply to increase vaccine uptake.
29:51
Todd, or Tony, pardon me, weigh in.
29:54
You know, it's kind of crazy because you know, Bobby Kennedy's book, the real Anthony Fauci came out, you know, on November 16 of 2021.
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And I've worked on it with him very closely.
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And, you know, Bobby, Bobby worked on that book 16 hours a day, seven days a week, it had 2194 citations, it had a blurb from a Nobel Prize winning scientist.
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So it was just incredibly well researched.
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And you know, doctors, scientists, lawyers.
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It was so well vetted.
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Have you known him that long, and how did you get involved with Maha Action?
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You guys go to jail for four months for doing absolutely nothing, and then here's a guy, Dr. Fauci, who has done something
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somethingAnd he basically has admitted to it in his journals, you know, in his diary, in his personal emails, in his texts, you know, that, that he knew what was going on.
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And the steps that he take- took and the mistakes that he made resulted in millions of deaths.
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And then he came and he made just a mockery of the Congress of this country, where he goes in there and he refuses to answer anything.
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So, you know, how is it any different than him not showing up? He goes in there and he won't tell the American people the color of his tie.
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He won't admit to anything that he's done wrong.
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And so, you know, Rand Paul has been working day and night for, for months and months and months to hold him accountable.
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Right now, what, what is, what actions do we have to take and what actions did the administration have taken? Because I know President Trump supports this 100%, but what action do you believe has to be taken now to energize that amazing MAHA base to join with us and to start the canvassing and the door knocking, you know, after Labor Day, that drive to November 3rd? What does Tony Lyons, the head of MAHA Inc., believe has to happen?
22:04
Tony Lyons, your thoughts?
22:07
Yeah, I mean, think about this.
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You guys go to jail for four months for doing absolutely nothing.
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And then here's a guy, Dr. Fauci, who has done something And he basically has admitted to it in his journals, in his diary, in his personal emails, in his texts, that he knew what was going on.
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And the steps that he took and the mistakes that he made resulted in millions of deaths.
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And then he came and he made just a mockery of the Congress of this country, where he goes in there and he refuses to answer anything.
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how is it any different than him not showing up? He goes in there and he won't tell the American people the color of his tie.
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But what action do you believe has to be taken now to energize that amazing Maha base to join with us and to start the canvassing and the door knocking after Labor Day, that drive to November 3rd? What is Tony Lyons, the head of Maha Inc., believe has to happen?
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All we talk about is vaccine injury, sir.
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There were no children's lives saved by vaccinating.
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There were hundreds and hundreds of thousands of children who were sickened, not only from the vaccine, but from the lockdowns, from the masking, from the interruption of their natural development, of their communicating with other students, of their learning in school.
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This was an earth-shattering...
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This, this impacted, this shattered the lives of a whole generation of children in this country.
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And there have been no studies.
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Bobby is entirely right.

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10:54
All of it's settled." Tony Lyons, your thoughts, sir?
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Walk me through it.
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Yeah, so what we've got is that for a generation now, we've had every network, every TV show, every newspaper, every website be totally corrupt, reading pharma talking points to millions of Americans.
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You know, mostly Democrats watching CNN and using words like anti-vaxxer, conspiracy theorist, you know, all of those kinds of things, and those are just pharmaceutical company talking points.
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We know That, you know, when Bobby Kennedy's book came out on November 16th, 2021, The Real Anthony Fauci, it was the most censored book in America because this is a cultural war.
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Genes don't cause epidemics.
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Vaccines are connected to autism.
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Vaccines do cause autism.

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What do you mean by that, sir? It's a pretty big throwdown
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That must have been triggering for you to hear that again, sir.
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It definitely was.
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I mean, you have...
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Bobby Kennedy, who was the bravest person in the country during COVID, coming out and telling people the truth, telling people things that could save their lives, save the lives of their children.
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And he was the most censored, vilified.
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subjected to hit pieces every single day from the New York Times, from all kinds of places, and he was just trying to tell the truth.
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So this was kind of a cathartic moment because he's on CNN, and you have Dana Bash saying that the vaccine saved 200,000 lives or something like that, and there's just not a shred of truth to it.
6:54
From a media standpoint, Tony Fauci, that's kind of an embarrassing performance by Dana Bash, don't you think?
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That must have been triggering for you to hear that again, sir.
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It definitely was.
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I mean, you have...
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Bobby Kennedy, who was the bravest person in the country during COVID, coming out and telling people the truth, telling people things that could save their lives, save the lives of their children.
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And he was the most censored, vilified.
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subjected to hit pieces every single day from the New York Times, from all kinds of places, and he was just trying to tell the truth.
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So this was kind of a cathartic moment because he's on CNN, and you have Dana Bash saying that the vaccine saved 200,000 lives or something like that, and there's just not a shred of truth to it.
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From a media standpoint, Tony Fauci, that's kind of an embarrassing performance by Dana Bash, don't you think?

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