Um, what pulls you into those scenes? What is the thing that you, you see in a place and say, "Ah, I need to capture that"?

I, I think I ask a, you know, simple question, what will make this scene, or whatever I'm looking at, what will make this a successful painting, you know? Is it, is there compelling light, um, atmosphere? Does it have a, you know, just a, a natural graphic presence, design, character? Um, and many of my subjects are just ordinary places that people walk by every day, you know, like the scene behind me.

It's just a, you know, it's a hotel, hotel...

It's a beautiful building.

It's, you know, it's a hotel in, in New York City.

Um, and when I went there to do research, uh, I had, um, someone asked me to paint a ho- a hotel next to this one, and my wife was with me and she goes, "Well, look at this one.

This one's great, you know.

Um, and then for you currently, how, how do you find new collectors, or do you just maintain your relationships with your long-term collectors? Like, what has helped you the most to get- In contact with potential collectors and collectors