How can we resolve that problem?

This is a common problem for whether you are an OEM, whether you are a ship ownership operator and so on.

And If I take the first stand from an OEM point of view, and I don't think that as an OEM is there any major difference between the shipping or the mining industry and so on.

And I think that the space and the role of us OEMs is moving more and more to the complex end.

It's not anymore that we would be, so to say, the reliable things on finding the simple things to deliver.

It's more than about that.

How can we get around the predictability, the preventive maintenance cycles? And how can we, so to say, start to look at the up times rather than, shall we say, a cheap, reliable supply chain only? And so how do we do it well? of course one of the one of the topics has already been on the drawing board for 20 odd years and and that is that how can we do more and more remote how can we more and more rely on on on shall we say condition based maintenances where we where we so to say benchmark the operation data against against service data data that we have at hand so that we we can address problems before we become really labor intensive to fix the problems that are are occurring and so to say improve the predictability in it and also then is that how do we how do we so to say also then tackle these challenges because the challenge is together with owner operators in terms of the labor scarcity so that kind of To some extent, moving away from this buyer-seller kind of a setup, we do need to solve the same problem, and that is to ensure the uptime of the fleet and ensure the environmental friendliness of the fleet.

And how has the ship owners, operators' attitude toward expectations to OEMs changed, really? I mean, how are they sort of viewing that side of it? Are you seeing, yeah, I mean, how do you fit into all of this? I mean, as far as that change in demands in the market?