[laughs]

Um, so my name's Tom Third.

Um, film composer these days, but not always.

I didn't probably realize until, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago, that I'd actually been training for this job and didn't really realize that that's what I was doing.

I was a musician first.

Um, I put out records in the '90s, like electronica records.

But to pay the rent, I was also doing commercials.

How do you approach that collaboration?