So what, what led you to, to where you are now from, from where you are? What are the kind of values that have really helped you along that journey?

Yeah.

Thanks, Philippa.

So I'm half Palestinian, so working in the Middle East on education, I think, is incredibly important to me simply by being from that part of the world.

In addition to that, and closely linked to that, I've always had a passion and an interest for international affairs.

And I recall from a very young age, probably around 13, 14, having been attracted to ideas like international cooperation, peace building, and things like that.

I recall the first time I read the Universal Declaration for Human Rights.

Yeah.