Can you explain the pressure of it all?

Yeah.

I think I'm really fortunate from the people that I've got to work under throughout the last few years or even work next to and learn from.

My time under Al McVean at Erebus when I was a data guy on his car with Dave, I learned so much off him and I tried to emulate a lot of things he did and then working alongside George, learned a lot more off George and now working next to Mark Fanning as well, behind Mark Fanning, heaps off them and It's probably like you talk about the tantrums, that sort of thing.

It's those that can avoid that and really be calm under a lot of circumstances and control their emotions because it is such high pressure environment as well.

It's sort of, Yeah, I don't think there's many.

There would be some, but there's very few industries where you're exposed the way that you are in this sport and in such kind of a helpless way as well.

There's a, it's a pretty

'Cause I, I was hoping, as many people were, that they weren't even gonna hear this case.

Yeah.

Um, it is...

It's, it's not set.

Basically, they...

It was John Roberts didn't squash it, you know, where, where he could have.

And so basically, it's, it's not a, it's not an indication of where the full court's gonna go, but it was basically saying, "Look, this is not as, uh...

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Mm

... and led to the numbers that you're seeing.

And what the corporate power reset does is get around that, and it says like, "Look, regulation side is dead.

If you try to regulate any of the spending, you're just walking into a buzz saw with Citizens United, and it'll die five seconds into court." And what this says is like, "Okay, just forget that.

Let's take one step back before that." And where do corporations...

Like, what are corporations, and where do they come from, and who creates them? Who defines them? And it turns out, uh, they're all f- creatures of state law, and there are sections of every state's law that define corporations and give them their powers.

Mm.

If the answer is yes, we're done.

We'll just leave him out of

it.

So when it came time, it actually stemmed from my intentions were really to never name it.

We have a K&A Speed Shop logo.

That's kind of our family crest, if you will, that I plaster on everything, and we push pretty hard.

So I wanted to put that on the door.

My daughter, 10-year-old Kennedy, she is absolutely obsessed with this form of racing.

So why don't you elaborate on that a little bit? What was it like? What did it mean to you to go under that big Meltdown Drags banner and participate?

What was the enticement to fight on the British side?

Well, the British did have a deal.

They had an offer.

They said that if an enslaved person from a rebel family, with sympathies to the Declaration of Independence and the free colonists and saying goodbye to Britain, a rebel farm owner, slave owner, if you left that farm, if you left that owner, then you would fight for the British and be freed at the end of the war.

And with a lot of bureaucracy at the end of the war, they did review the lists of the enslaved that left the rebel or Continental Army supporting landowners.

And those enslaved people who went to fight for the British were freed.

A lot of them were taken up to Nova Scotia, for example.

How does this new awareness change how we see the Declaration of Independence being signed 250 years ago?

The Center for American Progress' Tom Moore, who we heard from earlier, has come up with a plan to curb this at the state level.

Humans don't get their powers from the government.

They give power to the government in a democracy.

And so humans are born with, you know, this many powers, and then you can kind of chip away at their rights and kind of work down from there.

And corporations were given all these powers 100 years ago, and the same kind of thing.

You're chipping down from there.

When it's, it, when we're regulating in a way that is unconstitutional, the court will say, "Well, you can't do that." But this is the difference, that s- the states still give all the corporations all their powers, and there's a clause in every state's corporation law that says, "By the way, we give you all your powers, and we can change up those powers at any time." And the Supreme Court has said for over 100 years that states have an absolute authority to do that.

And I was shocked to hear that this could even affect presidential elections.

I mean, what was the point that the wider Coolmore team was aware that a deal of this magnitude around super seth could be on the cards i mean it must have been an exciting time when you sort of learnt that you could be you guys would get access to a stone of this quality

yeah thanks for having me brent um Well, I suppose there's a fair bit to unravel in that question, but it all seemed to happen very quickly.

Naturally, an operation such as Coolmore is always on the lookout for top-end stallions and top-end bloodstock in general, not only in Australia, but all throughout the world.

So when the opportunity arised to be put into a position where you might be a chance of purchasing a horse like Super Seth, who's only nine years old, Tom and a few of the guys jumped on a plane and headed over to Waikato to meet with the Chittick family and inspect the horse, inspect some of his stock on the ground.

Obviously, we'd been keeping an eye on him.

He had emerged very quickly as a sire of real significance.

So he was on our radar, but not that we ever thought he'd be It'd be possible that we might be able to lure him to Cornwall.

Have you got a view of sort of what sort of mares will do and will suit Super Seth in Australia?

And honestly, I

remember...

similarly to when I was disappointed when he gave me let's dance the single, I thought, who is this geezer? You know, and I listened to let's dance and it might as well have been like, you know, Neil Sadaka or something to me as let's dance.

How corny.

And then it sort of slowly became my, he became my favorite.

And when I kind of heard changes on the radio on K rock and like, whoa, that's the same guy.

But when my brother, for that Christmas, he got me no more lonely nights with like a really cool mix, like a 12 inch.

And I was just like, I was just trying to imagine it,

So if it happens, what, what do you think our campaign finance will look like?

When this passes, basically all the money in that state's politics, federal, state, local ballot issues, every dollar, every dollar comes from a human being, every dollar is disclosed, and every dollar is voluntary.

And that's a huge deal.

That is so much better than what we have now.

The one big thing it does not handle, because it's not corporate related, it's, it's individual spending, is Elon Musk wants to cut a $250 million check to a super PAC, he's gonna be able to do that.

Harvard Law professor Larry Lessig is working on that, on that angle in the First Circuit.

Godspeed to him on that.

Can you talk about this corporations voting?

And people going still from there, like in a roundhouse farmsteads and maybe like communal gathering places inside these earthworks at these oppida sites?

Yeah.

Well, that's one of the things that really interests me about the oppida because-One of the things that we're seeing in that period is the movement from, you know, very, very quite localized societies based on perhaps networks of a few farmsteads, you know, exchanging material between themselves, but not perhaps, you know, large social entities.

The late Iron Age with the oppida is the formation of those larger entities.

But you've got to have places where you negotiate that.

You know, how do you negotiate those relationships? And the oppida and that- those big empty spaces is perhaps the place you do it for assembling.

I mean, one of the things that, if we can believe some of the things that people like Caesar say, is that late Iron Age societies is about negotiated power.

Archeologically, is it more clear to see evidence of human sacrifice in Iron Age remains?

And people going still from their, like, kind of roundhouse farmsteads and maybe, like, communal gathering places inside these earthworks at these oppida sites?

Yeah, well, that's one of the things that really interests me about the oppida, because one of the things that we're seeing in that period is the movement from, you know, very, very quite localized societies based on perhaps networks of a few farmsteads, you know, exchanging material between themselves, but not perhaps, you know, large social entities.

The late Iron Age with the oppida is the formation of those larger entities.

But you've gotta have places where you negotiate that.

You know, how do you negotiate those relationships? And the oppida and that, those big empty spaces is perhaps the place you do it for assembly.

And one of the things that, if we can believe some of the things that people like Caesar say, is that late Iron Age societies is about negotiated power.

The elites have to kind of forge assemblies.

Archaeologically, is it more clear to see evidence of human sacrifice in Iron Age remains?

Tell me what your thinking is on, on that kind of influence, which I think the American public would also say is, is not what they thought should be happening.

No, absolutely, and thank you for bringing that up.

That is a different question.

The, uh, this...

The, the corporate power reset can only affect the ability of corporations and other artificial entities to spend in politics.

Uh, it doesn't t- touch individual spending at all.

That's a different kinda case, uh, line of cases that, uh, that established that, and you have to get at it a different way.

Talk to me about the practical implication of lots of states doing what Hawaii is doing.